General 2016 Warriors Stats

Miket12

Miket12

Thompson with 49 and 1 missed on the edge - that's also pretty rad...

Hoffman 23 made with 4 ineffective and 1 missed on the other edge - not so rad...

Actually really good thought I just had...

Johnson - 17 tackles, 2 missed
Thompson - 49 tackles, 1 missed
Ayshford - 16 tackles, 2 missed
Fusitua - 8 tackles, 1 ineffective

vs

Leuluai - 10 tackles, 5 ineffective, 2 missed
Hoffman - 23 tackles, 4 ineffective, 1 missed
Kata - 5 tackles, 1 ineffective, 1 missed
Wright - 4 tackles, 2 ineffective, 2 missed

They were really hitting our right edge hard. Basically twice as hard as our left edge. And yet all the tries were scored on the left.

Big props to the right edge. Wicked defensive display. Probably won the game with no tries conceded down that channel...
Also, what isn't reflected in those stats (very good job BTW with them Jay M) is how much scrambling and covering for each other is happening on the right edge if someone does miss a tackle compared to the left edge defense.
 
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InsideBall

InsideBall

I'm hoping that, given Tommy had no practice in the halves over the pre-season (according to Cappy... Which strikes me a pretty short sighted, but anyway) after a couple of games of gelling with Hoffy and Sol and getting his match fitness and lateral agility back, he'll be able to marshal that left edge effectively.
 
Beastmode

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Only 1 or 2 missed tackles per player? then who's missing all the tackles leading to the 26 pt avg scored against us in the last 7 games???
 
Jay M

Jay M

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Only 1 or 2 missed tackles per player? then who's missing all the tackles leading to the 26 pt avg scored against us in the last 7 games???

Robson was a big contributor to that...

On the weekend:
Gubb 4
Luke 3
Lolohea 3
Leuluai 2
Johnson 2
Lisone 2
Wright 2
Ayshford 2
Kata 1
Thompson 1
Hoffman 1

per nrlstats.com (that's 23)
 
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diehard

Can someone tell me where the Warriors stats are for 2016? And does it get updated from week to week? Many thanks.
 
Miket12

Miket12

Can someone tell me where the Warriors stats are for 2016? And does it get updated from week to week? Many thanks.
Not to sure when the stats are updated but use the Stats tab up the top and then use the dropdown menus for the catergory you're after.
 
Defence

Defence

Ligi Sao top for meters per minute and second for tackles per minute.
Bit of a forgotten man.
 
tajhay

tajhay

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Can someone tell me where the Warriors stats are for 2016? And does it get updated from week to week? Many thanks.
Stats section on this site. Will be updated sometime next week for last couple of rounds.
 

diehard

Got it. Thanks for finding it for me. Like Cappy, I go blind sometimes.
 
jonno

jonno

This club continues to ignore stats. Second worst defence is a stat. Missing the 8 is a stat. Player of club lagend status with the worst error rate in the league is a stat.

Losing on the score board at full time is a stat. Cappy's win loss ratio is a stat that isn't good enough for him to keep his job.

Ignore the stats and you'll never win the comp.
 
Jay M

Jay M

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This club continues to ignore stats. Second worst defence is a stat. Missing the 8 is a stat. Player of club lagend status with the worst error rate in the league is a stat.

Losing on the score board at full time is a stat. Cappy's win loss ratio is a stat that isn't good enough for him to keep his job.

Ignore the stats and you'll never win the comp.

Hate to break it to you but Manu isn't even in the top 5 in errors for the warriors this season...

Shaun Johnson 22, Mannering 15, Hoffman and Kata 14, Fusitua 13, Lolohea 12, Luke and Manu tied on 11. (Manu has played 14 games this season so his errors are less than 1 a game which is pretty good for him TBH. Wright actually leads in errors per game on average, followed by Shaun Johnson. Manu is down with Mannering in the errors per game category).

For the record there are 17 players above Shaun Johnson in the overall error count list.

Wighton leads the comp on 36 at more than 1.5 errors per game. In a team that is playing pretty well.
 
Miket12

Miket12

This club continues to ignore stats. Second worst defence is a stat. Missing the 8 is a stat. Player of club lagend status with the worst error rate in the league is a stat.

Losing on the score board at full time is a stat. Cappy's win loss ratio is a stat that isn't good enough for him to keep his job.

Ignore the stats and you'll never win the comp.
Most of this I'd agree with expect your error stat is completely wrong - according to the nrl stats, Johnson is the worst place Warrior with 22 errors and is 18th equal place on the error board for all the NRL players - the player with the distinction of having the worst stats in the nrl this season is Jack Wighton from the Raiders.

Upload 2016 9 1 8 32 1

Next Warrior is Ex. Capt. Mannering with 15 errors.

Just amongst Manu is seventh equal with Lucky Luke using the NRL's stats.

Upload 2016 9 1 8 37 2
 
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Miket12

Miket12

Although Manu does rise up the list a bit if you factor in errors per game ;)

good trainspotting though.
Using the stats from this site (which only features the Warriors and error figures are different than those on the NRL site) Manu does indeed move up the list but is still not at the top:

Upload 2016 9 1 8 42 18
 
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jonno

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So of our first choice fg players, Manu is the worst error prone player in the team again.

If cappy hasn't got the balls to drop manu then he hasn't got the balls to be head coach. The players don't respect or fear him at all.
 
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Miket12

Miket12

In previous years he was hitting 1.5 errors a game (6 in one game) and faced zero consequences. So how has that set us up for this season?
That's because, this year his crown for the most errors was taken of him and a new Prince crowned, All Hail Prince Nearly AlWright ;)
 
jonno

jonno

That's because, this year his crown for the most errors was taken of him and a new Prince crowned, All Hail Prince Nearly AlWright ;)
So j weight is the bench mark. I see our problem. All many has to do is play better than him and he's in safe under cappy.
 

Play The Ball

Hate to break it to you but Manu isn't even in the top 5 in errors for the warriors this season...

Shaun Johnson 22, Mannering 15, Hoffman and Kata 14, Fusitua 13, Lolohea 12, Luke and Manu tied on 11. (Manu has played 14 games this season so his errors are less than 1 a game which is pretty good for him TBH. Wright actually leads in errors per game on average, followed by Shaun Johnson. Manu is down with Mannering in the errors per game category).

For the record there are 17 players above Shaun Johnson in the overall error count list.

Wighton leads the comp on 36 at more than 1.5 errors per game. In a team that is playing pretty well.
That is a silly stat. What is relevant is errors per touch. Players that handle the ball more will naturally make more errors.
 
Iafetas Kickstand Wang

Iafetas Kickstand Wang

That is a silly stat. What is relevant is errors per touch. Players that handle the ball more will naturally make more errors.

That stat is also useless. It's easier to make a mistake trying to recover an attacking kick, take an intercept, or ball play, compared to trundling it up the guts. Johnno Wright as an example, some of his errors will be when he's got a touch on a pass going outside him which shut down an overlap. Good play, but it's recorded as an error
 
Crappy McFukkup

Crappy McFukkup

That stat is also useless. It's easier to make a mistake trying to recover an attacking kick, take an intercept, or ball play, compared to trundling it up the guts. Johnno Wright as an example, some of his errors will be when he's got a touch on a pass going outside him which shut down an overlap. Good play, but it's recorded as an error

And many others are when he has the line WIDE OPEN and "Hands of mortar" drops the pill cold... Or just has to get a hand on the pill to ground it when it's already over the line, and he finds a way to knock it on ... I'd take either of the Kiwi Women's team's wingers over JW. They would probably be more endowed than him too.

More often than not his intercept attempts bounce of his chest ... He's clumbsy and incompetent at 1st Grade Level... But he is a pretty fair reflection of a Cappy McFadden coached player with a less than average base skill set.

JW has the attacking potency of back-firing cap gun.

Please stop talking about him, he's the worst example you could use
 
Crappy McFukkup

Crappy McFukkup

Others who critise Manu and Ken for not being Wingers, making mistakes etc ... Their average running meters per game show an off-set contribution for those errors. Same was true of Konnie and we all know what Shaun Johnson can do when he hits the make magic button.

Sure the errors are frustrating, but they are amplified when they are made by average players who just needed to catch them to score tries.

They are amplified when the players who make them have very little else to contribute to the team to "get that error back"

The likes of Alwood, Ashyford, JW ... When they F-Up do you look at there stats at the end of the game/season and see if they got those errors back:

Ave run meters
Tries scored
Try assists
Line breaks
Line break assists
Dominant collision with quick PTB
Meters after contact
Big hits
Big hits causing handling error(s)
Tough carries out of red zone producing 8+ meters
Moments of game changing Individual Brilliance
... Or 1,000,000 tackles per game

Manu, Ken, Konnie, Shaun, Mannering all pass in terms of adding off-set value for errors made...

Now... Who here would be bold enough to suggest that the Australian backline contingent of Wright, Alwood and Asyhford poll well in regards to making up for their errors as per the above KPI's.

And trust me, as an ex player who never achieved anything of significance... It was never the good players who you were filthy with when they made an error ... Cause you knew they'd go to the next level to get it back ... They had the ability to repay it easily ... A lot of Cappy's no talent time "sympathy selections" do not have the ability to be anything more than decidedly average on their best day, let alone make up for their errors ... If you lack any real talent, you MUST be bulletproof everywhere else.

Those guys are not, so like Cappy, they should be axed.

But so far it's only been Konnie ... And no matter hiw awesome his couple of 1st grade appearances have been this year - we haven't seen any more of Bunty Afoa while our season was live.

It's examples such as these, and bench use, team selections, positional inconsistencies etc ... Driving your best talent out of the club, then not getting the rest of the roster to perform on the field, 2nd worst D in the league etc.

This isn't a 9-5pm job for $15.75 an hour guys where all you have to do is turn up on time and do your best.

This is high salary, international professional sporting stage, and it's a results driven gig...

CAPPY's results speak for themselves, in all the wrong ways !!!
 
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