General 2015 Warriors U20 NYC Thread

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mt.wellington

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Jun 21, 2012
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Just starting a thread for all 2015 Warriors U20 NYC talk. As was announced in October, Stacey Jones has been promoted to coaching the NSW Cup team while his Assistant Coach Kelvin Wright moves into the U20 coaching role...

Juniors Warriors get the Wright stuff
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POTENTIAL: Kelvin Wright will likely be Junior Warriors coach next year.
EXCLUSIVE: Kelvin Wright looks set to be promoted to replace Stacey Jones as the Junior Warriors coach next year, with Jones moving over to the NSW Cup team.

Rohan Smith and Jones were to have swapped roles next season, but Smith has taken up a job as assistant coach at the Titans and Sunday News understands Wright will be given the Junior Warriors job.


Wright is regarded as one of the best young coaches in the country and in August he was appointed analyst for the Kiwis during the upcoming Four Nations, working under Stephen Kearney and David Kidwell.

As a player, Wright helped the Auckland Lions to four Bartercard Cup national titles and in 2007 he was named the competition's player of the year. Wright also led Mt Albert Lions to Fox Memorial Cup titles in 2008 and 2009.

When he was given his job with the Kiwis, NZRL high-performance manager, Tony Iro was full of praise for him.

"Having worked with him, I know that he has an astute football mind and the potential to become one of our best coaches over the long term," Iro said.

Warriors general manager of football Dean Bell wouldn't confirm Wright's appointment, but said he was sad to see Smith move on after one year with the reserve-grade team.

"We were quite keen for him to stay, he's ambitious and there is no way we would stand in his way even though he had another year with us," Bell said.

"For young coaches, this is part of that pathway they go down and you don't want to block it, so we were quite happy in the end for him to go on to bigger and better things.

"Opportunities don't come around too often for coaches and when they do, you see a lot of movement happening with coaching staff."

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/10580893/Juniors-Warriors-get-the-Wright-stuff

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What made me start this thread was an article that caught my eye on the future of the NYC competition. Looks like its to be canned...


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HOLDEN CUP NEARING THE END?
U20s
December 6, 2014

THE Holden Cup under 20s competition may only have one year to go if a joint proposal to the NRL by the Queensland Rugby League and NSW Rugby League gets up.

The proposal, which has been made to the NRL, is for the under 20s competition to come under the umbrella of the state bodies with each Intrust Super Cup and NSW Cup side having a 20s side playing under their club’s banner.

“There is an acknowledgement now that perhaps the NYC competition isn’t achieving what we hoped it would achieve nationally,” QRL chairman Peter Betros says.

“The Queensland Rugby League and the NSW Rugby League have come up with a proposal that has gone to the NRL to replace the NYC with a state based under 20 competition where every Intrust Super Cup (and NSW Cup) team would have an under 20s side.”

The 20s would play before the Cup sides.

Former international Mark Murray told RLW back in 2007 that this was the model that the game should adopt.

“That was very perceptive of Mark and he has been one of the drivers behind that,” Betros says.

“In 2007 the game was being run very differently to what it is now.

“In the administration now everyone gets a say and someone like Mark Murray’s opinion is valued.

“What the game does well now is research, research, research and come up with figures.

“And the figures are compelling that the conversion from NYC into first grade is very poor, but the conversion from Intrust Super Cup into first grade is very good.

“All the NRL clubs now see that the career path is under 20s, into Intrust Super Cup or NSW Cup and into the NRL.”

Betros says it is “only logical now that the under 20s would come under the banner of each statewide team”.

“The proposition is on the table now. There are a few complicating factors with TV deals and sponsorships,” he says.

“It won’t happen next year but I am pretty certain that by 2016 we will have a state under 20s comp.”

Betros says there was what he likes to call “a historic board meeting” where the NSWRL board came to Queensland to discuss the proposal.

“We put the issue on the table and their major competitions guy and our major competitions guy have sat down and nutted out the nuts and bolts.

“The proposition has gone to the NRL as a join proposition from the NSWRL and the QRL. We are both driving it.”

- JOEL GOULD

https://rugbyleagueweek.com.au/holden-cup-nearing-end/

A bit disappointed we may see the end of a competition that the Warriors have dominated like no other.

I guess with what the article is saying is that we still have a chance to field an U20 team but they will be playing in the NSWRL competition. Means less competition, more travel and poor TV coverage IMO...
 

jagz

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Heres this years squad from photosport https://www.photosport.co.nz/albums.php?albumId=69454

Amoni Tufui
Ata Hingano
Brad Abbey
Bunty Afoa
Eddie Paealiki
Erin Clark
Fabien Kiri
Fetalaiga Pauga
Isaiah Cooper-Tetevano
James Mafi
Jazz Iosefa Tevaga
John Wesley Tauti
Joseph Price
Junior Lisone
Kauri Aupouri
Kole Oneone
Levi McBirney
Lewis Soosoomea
Marata Niukore
Matiu Love-Henry
Mattais Heimuli
Mikaere Beattie
Mose Esera
Nathaniel Roache
Ofahiki Ogden
Paul Tuli
Paul Ulberg
Roman Tuhimata
Semisi Tyrell
Sheldon Pitama
Siosaia Taufateau
Tamati Ioane-Niko
Tiaan Wilkins
Toafafoa Sipley
Tomasi Aoake
Tualima Tualima
Tyler Mohi
 
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Junior is a BEAST - Sams brother and a real bad ass. Could be another Russel Packer type player as he can be a real Boss. BIG boy to, bigger than his brother
 
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Paleaaesina2the20

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By my count 14 names from last season, the benefit in keeping the team young. Lisone, Abbey, Maumalo and Lino were the key players for this side last year and will (should in Abbey's case) move on to the NSW cup. Be interesting to see who the next handful are that put their hands up. We are due a genuine winger to come through at some point, I'm looking for Ulberg or Aoake to have a big year.
 
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All hype will be on Tian Wilkins and he deserves it, a very special talent, could become anything in the Warriors jersey. But the guy I reckon could become a cult figure and the rebirth of Ali Lauitiiti is Tua Tulalima - this boy has the ability to bust a game open from the 2nd row and he honestly plays similar to Nelson Asofa Solomona and Lauitiiti hybrid. Mark him down as someone to watch with BIG future in the game.
 
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Defence

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Ill be interested to see how sheldon pitama goes.
He was unstopable as a kid- his old man was a power house back in the day too but ended up a bit too big for hooker ( and not quite big enough for prop)
What about this erin clark? Bit of a girls name but seems to have big wraps on him.
I take it he'll be in the halves with hingano?
 

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Erin is a good thinker and controller of play, I heard good wraps on Kauri Aupouri, think he was a Keebra kid or played quite well in SG ball, ment to have good feet and a great offload. But Erin will probably get first crack at no7 - junior kiwis and all.
 

slaughterhouse.sa

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May 26, 2012
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Heres this years squad from photosport https://www.photosport.co.nz/albums.php?albumId=69454

Amoni Tufui
Ata Hingano
Brad Abbey
Bunty Afoa
Eddie Paealiki
Erin Clark
Fabien Kiri
Fetalaiga Pauga
Isaiah Cooper-Tetevano
James Mafi
Jazz Iosefa Tevaga
John Wesley Tauti
Joseph Price
Junior Lisone
Kauri Aupouri
Kole Oneone
Levi McBirney
Lewis Soosoomea
Marata Niukore
Matiu Love-Henry
Mattais Heimuli
Mikaere Beattie
Mose Esera
Nathaniel Roache
Ofahiki Ogden
Paul Tuli
Paul Ulberg
Roman Tuhimata
Semisi Tyrell
Sheldon Pitama
Siosaia Taufateau
Tamati Ioane-Niko
Tiaan Wilkins
Toafafoa Sipley
Tomasi Aoake
Tualima Tualima
Tyler Mohi


The Junior Warriors dont finalise there squad to post trials normally.
They have a number of players on trial and pick the best trainers/performers to join the squad. Likewise how they pick their youngsters they promote some earlier than others.

Ioane, Wilkins, Clark, Hingano still Under 18
Soosemea is a outside back from NZ 16s I think he would only be 16
 

slaughterhouse.sa

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May 26, 2012
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Erin is a good thinker and controller of play, I heard good wraps on Kauri Aupouri, think he was a Keebra kid or played quite well in SG ball, ment to have good feet and a great offload. But Erin will probably get first crack at no7 - junior kiwis and all.

Nah Kauri was quite rated in Wellington...went to OZ to a few clubs and hasnt played any games.
Must be 19 turning 20 and come back to trial - but looking at those names he will be needed for backup.

Erin Clark is Temepera Clarks son. He is a nugget - similar to a foran / Cronk in that he is not flashy but physicallly strong and stocky.
 
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Nah Kauri was quite rated in Wellington...went to OZ to a few clubs and hasnt played any games.
Must be 19 turning 20 and come back to trial - but looking at those names he will be needed for backup.

Erin Clark is Temepera Clarks son. He is a nugget - similar to a foran / Cronk in that he is not flashy but physicallly strong and stocky.

Who do rate in that list slaughterhouse ? who of the newcomers do you think could be a real deal future NRL player ?
 

slaughterhouse.sa

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May 26, 2012
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All hype will be on Tian Wilkins and he deserves it, a very special talent, could become anything in the Warriors jersey. But the guy I reckon could become a cult figure and the rebirth of Ali Lauitiiti is Tua Tulalima - this boy has the ability to bust a game open from the 2nd row and he honestly plays similar to Nelson Asofa Solomona and Lauitiiti hybrid. Mark him down as someone to watch with BIG future in the game.

Tiaan Wilkins will be fullback when Abbey gets promoted to NSW Cup. Wilkins definately has NRL potential.
However I have heard either got home sick or in trouble why he came back.

Tualima and Lisone are both big boys. Lisone is super rough, chunky prop and Tualima is a skilled but both too UNFIT.
 
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slaughterhouse.sa

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Who do rate in that list slaughterhouse ? who of the newcomers do you think could be a real deal future NRL player ?

Nuikore - he is gotta be 6 ft 2, 100+ kg, relatively quick and strong. But even better he is young, humble and still has plenty of physical growth.
If he can hold/increase his pace could have a genuine powerhouse outside back.

Afoa is definately NRL contract next year for mine - even with 2 years of NYC left.
sipley has potential just has to come out of his shell.

Then from the younger crew - which is based on raw talent still young kids

Soosemea, Ioane, Wilkins anad Clark.

Clark I reckon has got genuine hooker prospect longerterm.
 

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Nuikore - he is gotta be 6 ft 2, 100+ kg, relatively quick and strong. But even better he is young, humble and still has plenty of physical growth.
If he can hold/increase his pace could have a genuine powerhouse outside back.

Afoa is definately NRL contract next year for mine - even with 2 years of NYC left.
sipley has potential just has to come out of his shell.

Then from the younger crew - which is based on raw talent still young kids

Soosemea, Ioane, Wilkins anad Clark.

Clark I reckon has got genuine hooker prospect longerterm.

Sipley I think has NRL potential, I get what you mean about playing within himself, when he gets on a roll he is a perfect package, size, hardworking and a pretty intelligent thinker on the field in that position.

I really cant wait to see what level Ogden takes his game this year. He is a genuine big boned second rower with a lot of ability. You could argue that if Raymond Faitala has a big season it may block his long term prospects at the club as similar type players but I think he could be a very good player.

Marata was very athletic and quite impressive in his first season last year. Will be interesting to see if he fills out, another I saw destined for 2nd row but will be interested to see if he keeps a centre position down this season similar to a Ken Maumalo type.
 
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ramraider78

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Tamati Niko IMO will be in the kid that impresses for the future.hits the ball up like Paul Tuli but is faster, broncos scouted him for a scholarship 2 years ago but he knocked It to stay In NZ.His brother came to league late (19) but will play Fox this year for us this year, handy center.

Still some suprised In that list hat I know cause I never rated them through the grades.
 
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Tamati Niko IMO will be in the kid that impresses for the future.hits the ball up like Paul Tuli but is faster, broncos scouted him for a scholarship 2 years ago but he knocked It to stay In NZ.His brother came to league late (19) but will play Fox this year for us this year, handy center.

Still some suprised In that list hat I know cause I never rated them through the grades.

Ioane-Niko looks like a hard mutha, would he be around that 110kg mark ?

Anyone else you think could make a name for themselves from the local scene here in that squad ? - what do you think of Tualima ?
 

slaughterhouse.sa

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Tamati Niko IMO will be in the kid that impresses for the future.hits the ball up like Paul Tuli but is faster, broncos scouted him for a scholarship 2 years ago but he knocked It to stay In NZ.His brother came to league late (19) but will play Fox this year for us this year, handy center.

Still some suprised In that list hat I know cause I never rated them through the grades.

Yep he is huge. I watched him play years ago and he short and stock. Now he looked tall as playing for Mangere.
Probably could of been blooded early last year like Hingano.

But I suppose with that much growing he will be prone to injury.

He will easily be as big as bromwich in a year or so.
 
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ramraider78

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Ioane-Niko looks like a hard mutha, would he be around that 110kg mark ?

Anyone else you think could make a name for themselves from the local scene here in that squad ? - what do you think of Tualima ?
Tualima is alright from the club games I watched him play in the past but he was always no frills to me, and had to work on the play of the ball when we played him, I don't see him getting past a few of the others IMO.

For the Auckland scene this is the pick of the bunch ,that are the right age from the list posted earlier. Ioane-Niko is a beast IMO the kid was the De La Salle sprint champ for his form 2 years ago; We brought him up from the U 17's last year to play 20's with his brother and he blew a lot of teams away, a big reason we had a strong charge to the GF.

Seriously with some of the kids we have coming through for the forwards, I can't see us going wrong in the future with a strong mobile pack. There's no monsters in this years lot but some of them play with a lot of heart.

I think Erin Clark should make it this year - he's played 2 grades up last 2 -3 years and TBH I rate him highly. His kicking game is pretty decent for the games I've been at and he feeds clean ball out to his forwards at the right time. He's tough - we bruised his hip in the semi's last year and spent the whole 2nd half trying to get him, he kept running at us and tackling while talking shit to the forwards lol Lucky we won the game in overtime, cause he made the kick to draw the game.

One player I question his selection is OneOne the winger from Oats - never really rated him and he's never been pure speed from standing start, see what slaughter reckons but apart from being 6'4, there's not much else IMO.
 

slaughterhouse.sa

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Tualima is alright from the club games I watched him play in the past but he was always no frills to me, and had to work on the play of the ball when we played him, I don't see him getting past a few of the others IMO.

For the Auckland scene this is the pick of the bunch ,that are the right age from the list posted earlier. Ioane-Niko is a beast IMO the kid was the De La Salle sprint champ for his form 2 years ago; We brought him up from the U 17's last year to play 20's with his brother and he blew a lot of teams away, a big reason we had a strong charge to the GF.

Seriously with some of the kids we have coming through for the forwards, I can't see us going wrong in the future with a strong mobile pack. There's no monsters in this years lot but some of them play with a lot of heart.

I think Erin Clark should make it this year - he's played 2 grades up last 2 -3 years and TBH I rate him highly. His kicking game is pretty decent for the games I've been at and he feeds clean ball out to his forwards at the right time. He's tough - we bruised his hip in the semi's last year and spent the whole 2nd half trying to get him, he kept running at us and tackling while talking shit to the forwards lol Lucky we won the game in overtime, cause he made the kick to draw the game.

One player I question his selection is OneOne the winger from Oats - never really rated him and he's never been pure speed from standing start, see what slaughter reckons but apart from being 6'4, there's not much else IMO.

Yeah I think Ioane-Niko could be a monster - he would still be growing.
Like ramraider mentions he is mobile too.

Clark is definately tough - an old skool toughness however looks pretty nuggety probably a long term hooker option too if havili doesnt pan out.

Yeah seen oneone play for Otahuhu Prems on the wing - Seen him play prop for Otahuhu College.
Impressed me more as a forward potential to be a quick prop like Jesse Bromwich not so much a winger l
 
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mt.wellington

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One player I question his selection is OneOne the winger from Oats - never really rated him and he's never been pure speed from standing start, see what slaughter reckons but apart from being 6'4, there's not much else IMO.
Yeah seen oneone play for Otahuhu Prems on the wing - Seen him play prop for Otahuhu College.
Impressed me more as a forward potential to be a quick prop like Jesse Bromwich not so much a winger l

Better off in the forwards. He was unfit for Oats and that was with him hiding on the wing! Still young and needs to up his fitness. Good thing Ackers isnt still here or he's be a CTW for sure...
 
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