General 2014 Warriors NYC U20 Thread

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mt.wellington

mt.wellington

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How did the juniors go yesterday?
NYC | Setback at home
Daniel Adolph
Sun 27th July, 04:00PM
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Viliami Kaveinga of the Junior Warriors offloads in the tackle of Jordan Latham of the Manly Sea Eagles. Junior New Zealand Warriors v Junior Manly Sea Eagles. Holden Cup rugby league match at Mount Smart Stadium, Auckland, New Zealand. Sunday 27 July 2014. Photo: Jason Oxenham/Photosport.co.nz

The Vodafone Junior Warriors were unable to build on their outstanding performance in Brisbane last week as they fell 20-36 to Manly in their 20th-round NYC encounter at Mount Smart Stadium on Sunday.

The home side appeared to wield control in the first half but was outlasted by the Sea Eagles, who came out of the tunnel for the second half with renewed vigour.

Fullback Brad Abbey capped off a fast start for the Vodafone Junior Warriors when he darted in from close range with three minutes gone following a brilliant short ball from captain Sam Lisone.

Manly replied seven minutes later through second-rower Rhys Armstrong, who was set up by a timely pass from talismanic halfback Riley Travers.

The northern Sydney squad then went in front, capitalising on a costly mistake by the home side. The Vodafone Junior Warriors drove the restart dead and watched as Manly marched the ball downfield with ease before hooker Hugh Pratt was able to score from dummy half to give his side a 10-6 lead.

The Vodafone Junior Warriors then pieced together an impressive run of play buoyed by Lisone, who crossed twice for his side to regain the lead.

Lisone first crashed over in the 24th minute following a clever ball from hooker Kurt Robinson. He then doubled his tally seven minutes later, combining his bullish strength with momentum to force his way over.

It would have been a positive way to enter the break for Stacey Jones' side but for Adam Tuimavave-Gerrard being sin binned just before the halftime siren; the back rower was given 10 minutes off for dissent.

When play resumed in the second half Manly was quick to signal its intent.

Just three minutes after the resumption second rower Jamil Hopoate, son of John and brother of Will, scored between the posts.

Vodafone Junior Warriors winger Viliami Kaveinga went over in the corner in the 53rd minute to make it 20-16 but that would be his side's final score of the day.

Manly took the ascendancy thereafter, beginning with a try under the bar to Michael Stig that edged the Sea Eagles in front 22-20.

Fullback Charlie Taylor made this lead more comfortable in the 63rd minute when he forced his way through. Centre Luke Garner added the extras to make it a two-possession game at 28-20.

Jesse Ramien added another four-pointer out on the wing before halfback Travers was rewarded for his clever direction throughout the match.

Travers pounced on an offload from Jazz Tevaga and was able to peel away for the match-sealing try three minutes from time.

The Vodafone Junior Warriors now find themselves sitting on the outside-looking-in at ninth place.

Manly, just one point ahead, has now won five straight and is orchestrating a remarkable turnaround to its 2014 campaign.

Including their round 14 bye and round 15 draw with Cronulla, the Sea Eagles have not been beaten in almost two months, a streak dating back to their loss to the Knights on June 1.

With only six rounds left in the regular season each game is vital to the Vodafone Junior Warriors' hopes of finishing in the top-eight.

The fight for playoff football continues next Sunday in the ACT when the side takes on the Raiders, an outfit the Vodafone Junior Warriors memorably routed 54-0 in May this year.

Match details | Mount Smart Stadium, Auckland

Vodafone Warriors 20 (Sam Lisone 2, Brad Abbey, Viliami Kaveinga tries; Ata Hingano 2 conversions).

Manly Sea Eagles 36 (Rhys Armstrong, Hugh Pratt, Jamil Hopoate, Charlie Taylor, Michael Stig, Jesse Ramien, Riley Travers tries; Luke Garner 4 conversions).

Halftime: 16-10 Vodafone Warriors.

Referees: Peter Gough and Shane Rehm.

Vodafone Warriors: Brad Abbey; Viliami Kaveinga, Lafu Feagaiga, Marata Niukore, Metia Lisati; Ata Hingano, Semisi Tyrell; Paul Tuli, Kurt Robinson, Sam Lisone (c); Adam Tuimavave-Gerrard, Michael Ki; Jazz Tevaga. Interchange: Iulio Afoa, Nathaniel Roache, Toafofoa Sipley, James Bell.

https://www.warriors.co.nz/news/2014/07/27/nyc_setback_at_home.html
 
Rick O'Shay

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They played some dumb football. Certainly missing Mason Lino. Was nice to see a bit of structure now and again though
 
InsideBall

InsideBall

Abbey is definitely a class above, whenever they were threatening, he was largely involved...

Can't wait to see him develop.
 
mt.wellington

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NYC | Breakthrough in Canberra
Richard Becht
Sun 3rd August, 03:59PM
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Junior Warriors' James Bell in action. Round 12 Holden Cup, Junior Warriors v Junior Knights, Mt Smart Stadium, Auckland, New Zealand. Sunday 1st June 2014. Photo: photosport.co.nz

The Vodafone Junior Warriors have triumphed in Canberra for the first time and have done so emphatically by pounding the Raiders 54-6 in today’s 21st-round NYC clash at GIO Stadium.

Four previous visits had produced nothing better than a draw last year after three earlier losses.

There was no doubt about the perceived bogey being put to bed today as the Stacey Jones side rebounded assuredly from last week’s unsatisfactory display against Manly (20-36).

The only negative was the six points the Raiders scored as they came up with the last try of the match in the 72nd minute.

Until then the Vodafone Junior Warriors were on track for a record margin as they sat on a 54-0 lead with 12 minutes still to go; the score-line mirrored the fulltime score the last time the two sides met at Eden Park.

At last, though, the Raiders found some relief in the 72nd minute with their only points in 160 minutes against the Vodafone Junior Warriors.

The visitors came out fast with captain Sam Lisone over in the first minute for his third try ion two matches. He was also backing up after appearing for the club’s New South Wales Cup side against the Mounties yesterday.

Despite a heavy supply of possession over the next 25 minutes the Vodafone Junior Warriors failed to add to their 4-0 lead as the Raiders somehow managed to deny them again and again.

When the breakthrough came, though, a deluge of points flowed. In fact, in the 40 minutes from the 26th minute to the 66th minute they delivered no fewer than nine tries and 50 points. It could so easily have been more when fullback Brad Abbey was ruled to have deliberately knocked the ball forward as he put on a classy juggling act for what would have been his second try.

There was so much to be impressed with, especially in the first 25 minutes of the second half, when the Vodafone Junior Warriors produced seven tries and 38 points.

Centre Nathaniel Roache and back rower scored doubles and standoff Ata Hingano finished with 18 points as the side came up with its special mix of power and skill to unleash on Canberra. Many of the tries were sublime in their execution with Abbey exceptional.

Across the park the Vodafone Junior Warriors had players carving up huge numbers of metres, breaking tackles almost at will and coming up with a total of 10 line breaks.

The win enabled the side to reclaim eighth spot and boosted its points for and against differential to plus 141 points.

Their next outing is against 15th-placed Cronulla at Mount Smart Stadium next Sunday.

Match details | GIO Stadium, Canberra

Canberra Raiders 6 (Cleveland McGhie try; Jonathon Kent conversion).

Vodafone Warriors 54 (Nathaniel Roache 2, James Bell 2, Sam Lisone, Marata Niukore, Kouma Samson, Ata Hingano, Paul Ulberg, Brad Abbey tries; Ata Hingano 7 conversions).

Halftime: 16-0 Vodafone Warriors.

Referees: Chris Sutton and Kasey Badger.

Vodafone Warriors: Brad Abbey; Paul Ulberg, Nathaniel Roache, Marata Niukore, Metia Lisati; Ata Hingano, Semisi Tyrell; Bunty Afoa, Kurt Robinson, Sam Lisone (c); Toafofoa Sipley, Ofahiki Ogden; Michael Ki. Interchange: Jazz Tevaga, James Bell, Mattais Heimuli, Kouma Samson.

https://www.warriors.co.nz/news/2014/08/03/nyc_breakthrough_in_canberra.html
 
Defence

Defence

Interesting that lisone played for the 20s and vulcans- did he not get many minutes for the reserves?
 

slaughterhouse.sa

Interesting that lisone played for the 20s and vulcans- did he not get many minutes for the reserves?

I like that.....for NSW Cup they try and give Gubb etc big minutes.

So Lisone would of driver 3 hours from Sydney to play in Canberra and played outstanding for the juniors
 
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Rick O'Shay

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I wonder whether the female referee is Gavin Badger's wife? She did a pretty good job.
 

slaughterhouse.sa



Breakthrough game from Brady Abbey.

People will now understand the hype, potential and why so many teams were after him.
He will replace Tomkins.

Well he will be challenged by Tui Lolohea if he doesnt cement a spot.

I have watched most junior games over the years, this would have to be the most promosing/exciting games I have watched for a while

why?
Would be one of the youngest teams ever - playing quality football.

Apart from Lisone who was great again.
Also James Bell - skinny maori backrower from Papakura - is also decent.
I reckon a 3rd teir signing for NSW cup next year he will push Bhana a bit.

I though the below youngsters were great and look potentially genuine talent.

Ofahiki Ogden - 2nd row - Under 18
Bunty Afoa - Prop - Under 18
Marata Nukore - centre - Under 18
Brady Abby - Fulback - Under 18
Nathaniel Roche - centre - Under 18
Higano - Halfback - Under 17

And still think Hukutai, Fusitua, Maumalo, Lino, Lolohea and Solomone Kata can be drafted back for finals.
 
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drake83

Really wish we got that Nelson Asofa Solomona the boy scores 2-3 tries every game breaks tackles 2 linebreaks every game plus 2-3 offloads every game not bad for a young prop 2nd row. Wouldnt be surprised to see him play some first grade next year for the storm.
 
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Sup42

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Ben Ikin mentioned that the NRL are going to scrap the NYC.

They will return to NSW and Queensland separate regional sides.

I hope the Warriors are having talks with them about joining one of the state comps....probably can't afford it.
 
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Ben Ikin mentioned that the NRL are going to scrap the NYC.

They will return to NSW and Queensland separate regional sides.

I hope the Warriors are having talks with them about joining one of the state comps....probably can't afford it.

Yeah that was a bit of a worry
 
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InsideBall

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I suspect if the NRL does go down that route, that they'll kick in extra funding for us - otherwise, how can they expect us to compete?

Wouldn't it make more sense to keep the under 20s, and then have a true reserve grade comp with all the NRL clubs? Then leave NSW/Q Cup comps as 3rd/4th tier competitions...
 
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mt.wellington

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Ben Ikin mentioned that the NRL are going to scrap the NYC.

They will return to NSW and Queensland separate regional sides.

I hope the Warriors are having talks with them about joining one of the state comps....probably can't afford it.
Thats just stupid news if true. The NYC has been an amazing breeding ground for many of todays stars of the game. Weird as all the talk Ive heard from the NRL has been pretty positive about the competition itself and its long term future. There was talk of a U23 or proper Reserve Grade being added to the mix. This was back around the time the NRL got its new broadcasting deal.

Not sure the motivation behind the move. Cant tell me its money.

The biggest losers in this situation would be us, the Warriors. We just dont have the numbers to have a competitive local competition and Im not sure the Warriors could afford to send a development team to Oz every week. They sure as hell wont come here.

Really hoping this isnt true...
 
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Sup42

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Thats just stupid news if true. The NYC has been an amazing breeding ground for many of todays stars of the game. Weird as all the talk Ive heard from the NRL has been pretty positive about the competition itself and its long term future. There was talk of a U23 or proper Reserve Grade being added to the mix. This was back around the time the NRL got its new broadcasting deal.

Not sure the motivation behind the move. Cant tell me its money.

The biggest losers in this situation would be us, the Warriors. We just dont have the numbers to have a competitive local competition and Im not sure the Warriors could afford to send a development team to Oz every week. They sure as hell wont come here.

Really hoping this isnt true...
Totally.

The Sterlo Crew were all for it....can't remember the attraction. Not one mention of the Warriors.

Not having to travel over hear would save a lot of money sadly irrespective of how big the deal was.....it's money they can spend on themselves.
 
mt.wellington

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Totally.

The Sterlo Crew were all for it....can't remember the attraction. Not one mention of the Warriors.

Not having to travel over hear would save a lot of money sadly irrespective of how big the deal was.....it's money they can spend on themselves.
That totally ignores the money they get from SKY and the fact that we are 40% of their total merchandising sales. They get some half a million dollars from the jersey sales alone. Every year.

Bar saving money the Aussie teams would also benefit by being able to once again rape our junior stocks.

This is really bad news for our club and we should be fighting tooth and nail to maintain the status quo...
 
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matiunz

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This year yet?
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Really cant see the motivation here, seems fine the way it is-if it aint broke...
Obviously we would be massive losers in this, need a clear pathway for our youth.
 
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drake83

Getting rid of the 20s is a silly idea, look at the stars that have come out of it and also the players that might not be playing now if it wasnt for 20s Hurrell, Sheck etc
 
Wellington Warrior

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They wouldn't be getting rid of it... Keeping it state based so all the Aussie teams will still have the production lines coming through! It's just the players the Warriors would normally sign up would be forced to go elsewhere and the Warriors would have some substandard pathway for their younger players!!

/conspiracytheory
 
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