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Who will get your vote in this years election?

  • National

    Votes: 17 26.2%
  • Labour

    Votes: 13 20.0%
  • Act

    Votes: 7 10.8%
  • Greens

    Votes: 9 13.8%
  • NZ First

    Votes: 5 7.7%
  • Māori Party

    Votes: 3 4.6%
  • Other

    Votes: 11 16.9%

  • Total voters
    65
  • Poll closed .
There has been many posts being reported on this thread. Reading through some of the comments, just note this this section is not a free for all, and still adheres to basic forum rules of no personal insults, no threatening behaviour etc. If you dont want to adhere to these rules, dont post in here.

That said, im ready to fire off the ban hammer for anyone who tests these rules. And to make it that lil bit more interesting, the thread ban will surpass the start of the season.

No warnings to be provided. Expectation is that everyone is able to act like a civil mature adult i.e. dont be a dipstick.

Dam, what have I been missing… 😂
 
Though three waters was unpopular at least it was an acknowledgement that something does need to change. It’s like that old saying of expecting the same old practice with a different outcome insane.
Couldn't be more obvious with what is happening in our swimming areas that something has to be done.
Local bodies are obviously not the answer.
This is not a recent issue.
Labour tried to get the ball rolling but it was unpalatable to many.
Especially the groups who had been irresponsible and ineffective in the past
 
Local, regional or central government isn’t going to stop the idiots who decide that their soakholes aren’t working anymore so, instead of getting new ones, connect their downpipes and cesspits to the sanitary/wastewater drains. When it rains too heavily, the council’s pumpstations get overwhelmed and sewerage gets discharged into harbours and beaches through pipes that should only be discharging stormwater.

Go to most Northshore beaches after a large volume of rain and you’ll see brown water around the discharge pipes.
 
Local, regional or central government isn’t going to stop the idiots who decide that their soakholes aren’t working anymore so, instead of getting new ones, connect their downpipes and cesspits to the sanitary/wastewater drains. When it rains too heavily, the council’s pumpstations get overwhelmed and sewerage gets discharged into harbours and beaches through pipes that should only be discharging stormwater.

Go to most Northshore beaches after a large volume of rain and you’ll see brown water around the discharge pipes.
I presume that you are not happy with the situation
 
Though three waters was unpopular at least it was an acknowledgement that something does need to change. It’s like that old saying of expecting the same old practice with a different outcome insane.
Most of the councils recognise that change is needed. But that also didn't mean that the proposed changes were the best way forward. When even Phil Goff can't support it you know it may not have been the best proposal.
 
Most of the councils recognise that change is needed. But that also didn't mean that the proposed changes were the best way forward.
If you are right and I suspect you are why haven't councils acted on the issue before.
If Central government is going to put the ball back in local government hands what will change 🙄
 
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Most of the councils recognise that change is needed. But that also didn't mean that the proposed changes were the best way forward. When even Phil Goff can't support it you know it may not have been the best proposal.
But like the latest big sound bite goes, why throw the baby out with the bath water? Surely it was a decent base to start and tweaks could be made? Once again a huge waste of money from one administration taking over from another and we’re left with a poor service while blame is passed.
 
I presume that you are not happy with the situation
And the problem is, WaterCare could find the general areas it’s happening by doing inspections in manholes to see where there’s more “flow” than expected but there’s no desire to do that. So the pumps continue to be overwhelmed and wastewater continues to flow into the oceans.
 
And the problem is, WaterCare could find the general areas it’s happening by doing inspections in manholes to see where there’s more “flow” than expected but there’s no desire to do that. So the pumps continue to be overwhelmed and wastewater continues to flow into the oceans.
I was in Wellington in the 70's and during a storm storm water lids would pop out of the roads. Nothing has changed yet.
 
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But like the latest big sound bite goes, why throw the baby out with the bath water? Surely it was a decent base to start and tweaks could be made? Once again a huge waste of money from one administration taking over from another and we’re left with a poor service while blame is passed.
That's the problem though isn't it? It wasn't considered a good base to start from and was going to take time and money to get set up while there wasn't any great faith it would deliver better services
 
That's the problem though isn't it? It wasn't considered a good base to start from and was going to take time and money to get set up while there wasn't any great faith it would deliver better services
The problem was councilors were thinking about themselves and not the public.
"Oh I might have to get off my arse and I want to keep my job"
 
And the problem is, WaterCare could find the general areas it’s happening by doing inspections in manholes to see where there’s more “flow” than expected but there’s no desire to do that. So the pumps continue to be overwhelmed and wastewater continues to flow into the oceans.
Do you think Taumata Arowai will make a difference to this or anything at all. Looks like regulations will be backed up with stiff penalties?
 
I was in Wellington in the 70's and during a storm storm water lids would pop out of the roads. Nothing has changed yet.
And it’s gotten far worse when we’ve replaced 1/4 acre sections with 8 terraced houses so expecting stormwater pipes not designed to cope with that much impermeable/hard catchment without upgrading the pipework.

A few years ago, most of Manurewa and western Papatoetoe couldn’t be further subdivided because of lack of stormwater infrastructure. Now it can…. but the infrastructure for the Mahia Catchment hasn’t been upgraded. Instead, it all backs up and the same houses in Mangere keep getting flooded because that’s in a basin before the harbour.
 
And it’s gotten far worse when we’ve replaced 1/4 acre sections with 8 terraced houses so expecting stormwater pipes not designed to cope with that much impermeable/hard catchment without upgrading the pipework.

A few years ago, most of Manurewa and western Papatoetoe couldn’t be further subdivided because of lack of stormwater infrastructure. Now it can…. but the infrastructure for the Mahia Catchment hasn’t been upgraded. Instead, it all backs up and the same houses in Mangere keep getting flooded because that’s in a basin before the harbour.
I agree miket12 but is doing nothing the answer.
 
Do you think Taumata Arowai will make a difference to this or anything at all. Looks like regulations will be backed up with stiff penalties?
From what I understand, Taunata Arowai will deal mostly with water suppliers and disposal along with large polluters such as industry and farmers. While the penalties will also include “small” polluters, I personally don’t think councils and water companies will have the staff or the will to go after house owners discharging waste or stormwater into the wrong pipe…. unless there‘s a catastrophe failure and it’s obvious on someone’s site what they’ve done. Easier to go after the “big boys” especially once economics of enforcement and prosecution come into it.
 
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